Queer Eye for Bible Thumping Black Conservatives

Queer Eye for Bible Thumping Black Conservatives


As we celebrate Black History Month in 2012 – its leaders, its lessons, and its lasting impact on American history – we must also be diligent to remember Black history as it pre-dates the civil rights movement of this generation.

Today, arguably, we are witnessing civil rights history in the making; LGBT Americans are fighting for their right to marry their partner to have the same legal rights and privileges granted to heterosexual couples. This debate has sparked a modern day culture war over the rights of an oppressed minority, bringing God and bible to the forefront. But, this scenario has occurred in American history before, and what better time to be reminded of it than during Black History Month.

It’s been almost 150 years since the Civil War ended, and yet America’s bloodiest war is relevant to today’s national discourse on civil rights. It was a war about more than just slavery, or even a state’s rights issue. Slavery in America in the days leading to succession would shed light on the ugly underlying religious principles justifying the twisted beliefs of southern religious conservatives. Confederate states took this battle beyond a debate about the Constitution, and made it a war over their rights endowed by their supreme being.  Thus, the flames that fueled the Civil War became a fight that could not be won in the courts. This severe disagreement over the privileges granted by God would be fought in the lines of fire and in the lines or scripture.

Southern Baptist ministers successfully made the moral case for slavery  with the bible on hand with quotes from both the Old and New Testament:

When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property. (Exodus 21:20-21)

Who then is the faithful and wise slave, whom his master has put in charge of his household, to give the other slaves their allowance of food at the proper time? Blessed is that slave whom his master will find at work when he arrives. (Matthew 24:45-46)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ; not only while being watched, and in order to please them, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. (Ephesians 6:5-6)

Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior. (Titus 2:9-10)

Realizing that the Civil War also had to be won in the battlefield of faith, President Abraham Lincoln issued an executive order, the Emancipation Proclamation, calling for all slaves to be free, both in regards to the state and God himself:

And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God. (January 1, 1863 Emancipation Proclamation)

This chapter in American history and Black history contradicts the sheer hypocrisy of contemporary Black religious conservatives practicing the same bible referencing that argued for slavery. History proved that campaigns of ignorance, even backed by scripture, lost the Civil War, and it will ultimately lose the culture war on the rights of LGBT Americans.

So as proposition 8 is overturned in California, New Jersey’s Marriage Equality law is vetoed by Governor Chris Christie, and GOP presidential hopeful Willard Mitt Romney vows to “fight for an amendment to our Constitution that defines marriage as a relationship between a man and a woman,” we can all agree that will be a long fought culture war. African Americans at large understand the language of “separate but equal,” and so does President Obama, the most successful LGBT rights advocate to date. So quote your heart out Black conservatives. The same Bible quoted by some of you today to deny Marriage Equality was the same Bible quoted during the Civil War to justify Blacks as slaves granted by God. The same practice that failed to keep you as slaves will also fail to keep gays as second class citizens.



  1. I'm not a Black Conservative or a Christian but I am steadfastly against Gays co-opting our movement. It's a Goddamn slap in the face so I am with the Black Conservatives on this one.

      • Well we don't want you and how dare you tell us what's hurting our movement you arrogant bytch. Black people are tired of people like you and them and we will add you to the list of people we have to curse and damn.

  2. "Slavery in America in the days leading to succession" – Take a history lesson from a history professor…succession means "the order in which or the conditions under which one person after another succeeds to a property, dignity, title, or throne"…Secession, on the other hand, is what the Southern states declared as their CONSTITUTIONAL right to remove themselves from the US Government, per the 10th Amendment of the Bill of Rights. South Carolina, the first state to leave the Union, did so after Lincoln's election in 1860. Secession, as declared by the South, was neither legal nor Constitutional. However, it is the right of each state to determine laws and regulations as needed to manage and maintain order, so long as they do not conflict with the Constitution.

    It is also important to note that Lincoln, himself a firm believer in colonization – the return of African slaves to Liberia, used Emancipation as a political tool to keep Europe from intervening on behalf of the South. Napoleon III was readying his war machine and raising funds to back the Confederate government. Lincoln knew that he had to stop the English from make the same choice. When Lincoln declared Emancipation, he knew he had used his last stop-gap measure in preventing European involvement.

    Your rant on the use of the Bible to justify slavery has some truth to it, but lacks the clarity necessary to explain your point. Religion has been used to control societies for centuries, and more that just Christianity has been used to push across fear of the unknown. Both the North and South called upon days of fasting and thanksgiving, claiming God was on their side. Both sides were wrong – in their aims and their objectives. Calling on God didn't change the outcome – 620,000 casualties of war, however, did. Those men gave the last full measure of devotion to protect their own definition of freedom.

    Contrary to your beliefs, historians have proven over and over again that very few societies have embraced gays/homosexuality as an open right for the free exercise therein. Even the Persians had strict laws for dealing with homosexuality. Eunuchs – look up that term in a good dictionary, and you will get the penalty for the open practice of homosexuality.

    You hurt your movement with your ignorance. Educate yourself, take the time to write and learn a better argument, and make it a point to know what you're talking about before you show your lack of intelligence.

    • what happened to the ancent greeks and persians? Their once thriving cultures parished because of the incessant permissiveness, if you're going to attempt to tell the story, you miscreant tell it all. Homosexuality is equal to pedophilia, beastiality and the like. You want rights simply to marry a fool of the same sex as opposed to People of color being denigrated by even you homosexuals whom are white. So we are just suppose to accept you because you think we should understand? Hell no, I will share the banner with the likes of that sort of refuse. My people have gone through too much to have more infiltrate our cause. What has hurt us is accepting the filth that you animals have brought to the world. I'm not a Christian, I have thrown off anything that has to do with your wretched race because of the evilness you bring. I see you nothing as trash to be thrown out, nothing more than dead souls.

    • So let me brush off your character judgement here, and lets keep this civil. Thank you for the secession clarification.

      "Secession, as declared by the South, was neither legal nor Constitutional," because they made their case with the bible. It has been thoroughly documented in a book titled "Diverging Loyalties: Baptists in Middle Georgia during the Civil War." You can go ahead and read, and even go ahead and attack my character. The Gay Community is the one minority that includes everyone: black, white, Christian, Jew, man, woman and so on. You can go ahead and ignore that

      Did you check my bible references professor? Those words exists, today and in the days of the civil war; used as a tool to make the religious case that slavery was ok because the bible said it was. That is my point, that when the bible is used as a tool to oppress blacks or gays or women, it ultimately fails. There is a compassionate majority in our country, and it has proven itself time and time again.

      I would also suggest you look up the speeches made by renowned civil rights activist Dorothy Heights and Julian Bond for the Human Rights Campaign. There you will find the compassionate majority that spans across race, gender, generations, and religion.

      I have taken note of how to better sharpen the message as per your comments. Thank you for your insight.

  3. Great discussion.

    Let me add one more element. I don' t think anyone should deny who they are, who they love and who they choose to spend their life with.

    Here is a little nuance and difference between blacks and gays. Equally dressed and before anyone opens his/her mouth to share anything about their background or sexual preference, some may judge blacks more negatively and make more negative assumptions about them. So the point is that blacks cannot hide their complexion and features to escape racist judgment but gay person can choose to not disclose his or her sexuality by choice and escape unfair judgment.

    Again, I don't think people should suppress who they are at all, but that is a simple nuance.

    I know that is over simplistic and perhaps an over generalization, but in sum, I am just sharing how many black people I've come across feel about the difference and why they do not think the struggles are necessarily the same.

    Don't kill the messenger, just wanted to add that to the debate and throw that out there.

  4. I do not equate the struggle faced by blacks in America to the struggle of gays except that it IS a civil rights issue. It is about rights and privileges under Civil law so, by definition, both struggles were about Civil rights. Could I pass as straight? Probably. But I refuse to try because that would be dishonest and I'm not good at hiding my feelings and my commitment. So, no, the struggles are not the same, but they share a certain commonality. No one should be judged by the color of their skin. Nor should I be judged for who I pledged my life to. I am NOT equal under the law because I cannot marry who I would choose to marry as that person is of the same gender. Sure, I could marry the guy next door, but that would be a lie. I cannot CHOOSE to love a man. Just not going to happen. Also, the argument equating homosexuality or pedophilia is specious at best. It is purest ignorance to compare consenting adults to children and animals who, by all legal and moral definitions, cannot grant OR withhold consent.

  5. I also think it's funny that gays think that their struggles are akin to those of minorities. Frankly, homosexual men and women creep me out. The constant proliferation of the gay agenda upon our society has confused many a man and woman.

    Since this is the semi-anonymous internet, I'll admit that I have experimented with gay sex…I found out quickly that it wasn't for me because of men being so damn dominant regardless of how big of sissies they might be. I am also deeply ashamed of myself for doing it and the secret will be taken to the grave when it comes to the people in my life.

    I feel that the only reason I tried it was because of the constant glamorization of the gay lifestyle and my gullibility for buy into the fad.

    All this being said, I find that I would much rather have homosexuality be a stigma to society than a perceived boon to it because I feel like my actions have turned me into a weird piece of garbage that holds secrets that can never, ever be shared with anyone tangible in my life.