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7:00pm February 7, 2012

GLAAD’s Blackophobia and the War on Black Men

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by CLEO MANAGO

The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (otherwise known as GLAAD) may want to consider changing their name to the GLKKK.

I continue to find many of their actions and reactions “Blackophobic” in nature. This new scenario targeting CNN personality Roland S. Martin is just another case in point.

GLAAD has been using the media to lynch a disproportionate number of well known Black men in recent years.  These men include Tracy Morgan, Isaiah Washington, Kobe Bryant, Barrack Obama, andT.I. – among others. We can now add TV ONE host and CNN contributor Roland S. Martin to the list.

In reaction to an underwear commercial, featuring a scantily clad David Beckham – that ran during the weekend’s Super Bowl – Martin shared the following tweet with his followers: “Ain’t no real bruhs going to H&M to buy some damn David Beckham underwear! ..If a dude at your Super Bowl party is hyped about David Beckham’s H&M underwear ad, smack the sh@t  out of him! ” and “I bet soccer fan Piers Morgan will be in line at H&M in the morning to get his hands on David Beckham’s [sic] underwear line! LOL.”

GLAAD angrily claimed that Martin’s comments were homophobic and has demanded that CNN fire him immediately.  GLAAD has not made the same request of the Black owned TV ONE network, where Martin hosts his own show.

Is this because they perceive TV ONE in the same manner they tend to perceive Black people, as insignificant? Of course, insignificant until an opportunity to attack them (from their perspective) is presented.

Last year GLAAD created a controversy by misquoting comedian Tracy Morgan, claiming he said, “I’d Kill My Son If He Was Gay.”  What Morgan actually said, as part of a comedy riff about Gay bullying was, “[If my son ever talks to me about being bullied, he] “better talk to me like a man and not in a gay voice or I’ll pull out a knife and stab that little ni**er to death.”

What Morgan actually meant by “gay voice” was a voice that was not “manly” or “masculine.”  From my perspective, his rant was a problematic critique of how a man – especially one at risk of being bullied – should talk.  It was not meant to be a critique of homosexuality.  Morgan’s routine was inspired more by a self-conscious reaction to attacks on Black men and manhood in America than it was a direct attack on homosexuality. I don’t condone Morgan’s comments but I understand what he meant.

I also recognize why GLAAD opportunistically took the word “voice” out of Morgan’s comments. He subsequently re-wrote what he said – for GLAAD’s own selfish, thus racist, purposes.  On the contrary, GLAAD apparently found nothing wrong with Morgan calling his son a “little ni**a.”

Unlike Morgan, who was successfully terrorized by GLAAD into apologizing for something he never even said, so far Martin has not fallen for it.  The jury is still out on whether CNN will terminate the only dark-skinned Black man seen frequently on their network.

Unfortunately, a perpetually silent voice during these GLAAD attacks on Black men is that of same-gender-loving (SGL) and bisexual Black people.  This silence is likely because many Blacks understand the culturally (if not problematic) context of Martin’s and Morgan’s words.

As an SGL Black man, I’m insulted by a disproportionately White organization like GLAAD misconstruing the words of Black people, and forcing Black men to lose their jobs – bad enough we are already the first fired and least hired in America.

I am not down for anti-homosexual attitudes or behaviors, and yes: the Black community still has some work to do on this issue.  Yet, we are still in the process of recovering from many challenges that have resulted from being Black in America. Still, lily-White organizations like GLAAD are not in the position to complain about alleged injustice from Blacks.  They clearly are not culturally competent enough to accurately interpret the voices of Black people.

If anyone reading this wants to know more about GLAAD, go to their website http://www.glaad.org/about/board and see it for yourself.  There you will see how White they are, and given this reality, how unqualified they are to critique politically incorrect jokes about manliness from African American males.   And I might add: anyone who doesn’t see anything wrong with this picture, go smack the sh@t out of them.

CLEO MANAGO is a socio-political analyst, behavioral health specialist, filmmaker, writer, public speaker and activist. He is the CEO and founder of the Black Men’s Xchange (BMX), the nation’s oldest and largest community-based movement devoted to promoting healthy self-concept and behavior, cultural affirmation and critical consciousness among same gender loving (SGL), gay-identifying and bisexual African-descended males and the CEO and founder of the AmASSI Centers for Wellness, Education and Culture.



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  1. Chi-Chi

    I can't say that GLAAD is a white organization. I also can't say that they have an it out for the black male community. As a gay black female, I can genuinely say that the reason why this group goes up in arms when homosexual terms are used out of context is the same reason why the NAACP goes up in arms about racial slurs. Right now there are lgbtq people fighting for same rights as heterosexual people. If they stand idle while comments like this are made, then they are saying that it's ok to use this type of language. It's not.

    I don't think that it's so hard to understand that people who have been oppressed would have a problem when there's jokes or comments made in poor taste that pertain to something about their lives that is criticized on a regular basis already. As a a member of the black community, I know that our community is not as accepting of homosexuality as caucasian cultures.

    For years, black culture has fought for the right to utilize the "n" word as a part of inter-social acceptance. while i don't agree with that and you might not agree with that, GLAAD's purpose as an organization is not to ban the use of "accepted cultural slang." They are an lgbtq activist group. Their opinion of his use of the "n" word would fall upon silent ears.

    Yours is a weak argument for several reasons, but the main one has to do with the lack of research in regard to lack of common ground that black groups and lgbtq groups share. I think that if there were better alliances between the two communities, then there wouldn't be a question of either group feeling threatened or put down by the other.

    But I do think that it's interesting that the argument that you pose is the war on black men. Read Tracy Morgan's statement or "joke" again. I think that people find many ways to make themselves look bad.


  2. M Griffin

    Chi Chi:

    Please juxtapose two of your statements and think about what you have just asserted:

    #1)As a a member of the black community, I know that our community is not as accepting of homosexuality as caucasian cultures.

    #2) Yours is a weak argument for several reasons, but the main one has to do with the lack of research in regard to lack of common ground that black groups and lgbtq groups share.

    Please illustrate to me the "research" that supports your statement #1. Please refrain from your psychobabble. Obviously you are no serious student of Caucasian culture…just a wannabe. Please do yourself a favor of attending a revival in a White Pentocostal Church in Alabama and proclaim your Black lesbianism. Then you will see how much more accepting Caucasian culture is.

    IG


  3. HypnotiqOne

    This is a very misguided and misdirected argument. Your penultimate paragraph should have been your thesis and then better developed in an effort to make a cohesive and purposeful point. GLAAD's mission is to fight LGBT defamation, not racial/ethnic ones. So no matter how you try to spin their reaction(s) to be racist, there is little evidence when the examples you put forth STILL defame homosexual persons if race is removed from the arguments. And how is it that you've missed Black and other people of color's criticisms of Martin and his commentary?! I've seen it. Why haven't you? And do you condone Martin's tweets or not? It's hard to tell in this piece. It looks like you give Martin a pass, but attack GLAAD. You ask for readers to do research on GLAAD, but have you done your due diligence on Martin's past homophobic commentary? You should. Lastly, your language tends to provide further insight into your own phobia regarding Whiteness, male femininity and the subsequent promotion of hyper-masculinity in SGL, gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men. And so, I see more wrong with YOUR picture rather than that of GLAAD…yet, I hold no desire to smack the sh@t out of you or anyone as my 'manliness' as a Black bisexual male is not as threatened as yours.


    • cleomanago1

      HypnotiqOne, You write: "You should. Lastly, your language tends to provide further insight into your own phobia regarding Whiteness, male femininity and the subsequent promotion of hyper-masculinity in SGL, gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men." I’m not sure of what you are creating here? Specifically, what is this subsequent promotion of hyper-masculinity in SGL, gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men? Could you provide specific, real-world examples of this? And, when/if you can’t, please say so.

      Secondly, I didn't give anyone a pass. That's your bias coming into play here. That I recognize GLAAD as a predominantly White group of people using racist and gangsta style approaches to attacking Black men doesn't mean I gave anyone else a pass. Thirdly, if you see something wrong with my picture, tell us what that is literally using my words instead of doing a GLAAD style misconstruing of my words.

      Lastly, regarding the smack the sh@t comment, that was clearly not a serious threat of violence.


      • HypnotiqOne

        In your response to GLAAD, this statement specifically addresses my point: "There you will see how White they are, and given this reality, how unqualified they are to critique politically incorrect jokes about manliness from African American males. And I might add: anyone who doesn’t see anything wrong with this picture, go smack the sh@t out of them." To me, you misconstrue cultural competence with a need for understanding the "manliness" of African American males and then you add in a stroke of violence (playing into that same tired imagery) for good measure. That is a problematic misappropriation that illustrates an ideal of hyper-masculinity…to me.

        Secondly, I don't see where you specifically condemn Martin in this piece. I'd like to literally use your words to do so. But I can't. And that is not of any GLAAD style of misconstruing, it is just not there. The better question now is, "Why?"


  4. Glen-Michael

    This editorial is utter nonsense, to say that GLAAD is BlackPhobic is so pathetic, this is about a black "man" with public access using his podium to bash or to create a hostile environment for GLBT people, and that should not be tolerated from anyone. If black men want to go out there, and all they can do with their opportunity is spread hate, then so be it, stand the consequences for your actions, this world is "unbalanced" that is why we should know better.


  5. Roger Williams

    What people need to realize is that white gay people typically only see themselves as an oppressed minority when it involves their sexuality. If that portion of themselves are able to be concealed, then it does not become tremendously problematic. I think the same is true for GLAAD and other organizations. In other words, as tend to happen with white privilege, they fall victim to sucumbing to the same myopic views (or no view at all) of other non-white cultures and ethnicities gay or straight. To these organizations, nuance is not taken into consideration. Everyone is supposed to wave the rainbow flag, and all other aspects and cultures and diversities and colors be ignored.


    • HypnotiqOne

      Ok, but what is nuanced about homophobia in Black communities? I couldn't care less about GLAAD or White gays for that matter. That's a tertiary argument. I'm more concerned about how we are challenging the Black community to be more inclusive and tolerant. We should be continually be writing about that.


      • MauMauAfrica

        The whole idea that the Black Community is so homophobic is a LIE, first of all and secondly cannot be proven. If you really know anything about the Black Community you would know that we have pretty much accepted everyone and their ways into communtiy much to our detriment. This whole Black Homophobia Lie was started by embittered, confused black gay people or white gay people that just wants to put the Black Community on notice and paint them with a broad brush. You should educate yourself is quit perpetrating a lie that you cannot prove. You incessant ignorance is glaring.


      • MauMauAfrica

        You go to virtually any church half of the goddamn choir will be gay and the musicians, so tell me, how are Black people not being tolerant of gay folk and what kinda of power are we wielding to exclude them? Fucking Liar!!!!


        • HypnotiqOne

          You, my friend, are vitriolic evidence of the problem. I need not look elsewhere.


          • MauMauAfrica

            No, you just can't answer and your obvious deflection shows that. A liar is what you are, you perpetrate a fraud and you cannot be trusted!! But I guess a lack of upbringing is your problem, Truth is not on your menu, My friend!!!


        • Nandi

          No why don't you go to any Black church and listen to the vitriol being spewed against LGBT people and then tell me again how tolerant the Black Church is of gay folk. Of course you won't, everyone knows that the Black community can be tolerant of Gays in their mists especially when those gays hide or better yet try to pray away their vile gay lifestyles. However, noone can seem to explain when this thinly veiled hate cloaked in the form of tolerance will begin to translate to acceptance and love for all those "goddamn gay choir members and musicians."


  6. MauMauAfrica

    I really wish You gays would quit co-opting the African-American movement because it's disrespectful to those that died because of the color of their skin and not some Lifestyle. I don't give a care what you people do but you really need to leave our community alone with your crap, especially you black gays, you should know better. Your so-called struggle in no way compares to that of people of color and I don't care whether they are African, Chinese, Latino etc. somehow your label of Gay doesn't even fit and you dishonor those Black, Latino people who died because of their race and not a fucking lifestyle.


    • Nandi

      Your view is extremely narrow in scope. As a Lesbian Woman of Color it saddens me that you ignore the myriad of ways discrimination can impact someone who is not only Black but who may also be Black and Gay. Your repeated use of phrases like "You Gay's" and "You People" underscores your deep-seeded and overwhelming levels of bigotry directed at LGBT community at large.


      • MauMauAfrica

        Well, YOU people can do as you please but LIFESTYLE and people being Lynched, Raped, Murdered, Subjugated and all manner of ills because of the color of their skin and YOU people thinking your cause somehow compares to that is blind ignorance. I take issue with YOU people always thinking your cause trumps others simply because you want people to recognize what goes on your bedroom, YOU silly woman, no one gives a damn about that but Racist and ignorant people see a PERSON OF COLOR and goes into action ON SIGHT. Oh there is a difference. You want to shove your sexual life down people's throats but in your incessant selfish and blindness you can't see that and that's why people will OPPOSE you until eternity. YOU people are arrogant fools. Call it want you want, Bigotry , I don't give a husky damn. I will respect your right as a human being to live but not as a GAY human being. YOU people got it all wrong, BLACK people just want to recognized and accepted into the HUMAN FAMILY as PEOPLE, not Black People and that's where your SO-CALLED MOVEMENT, FAILS IN COMPARISON.


        • Mwatuangi

          Aww yes, the numerous BLACK African women "correctively raped" for being lesbian don't want to be seen as people either, nor the millions of BLACK gays in Uganda where homosexuality is a Federal crime that may become punishable by death if their Anti-Homosexuality Bill passes. Or the gay BLACK (all that capitalizing you did only makes you look silly, just fyi) Muslims in Senegal who were defiled by other Muslims who deliberately broke Shariah Law and were excused. The greatest myth among our people is that none in our community are gay, and painting this as merely a lifestyle issue devoid of PEOPLE OF COLOR (really, you look stupid doing this) with the same tired rhetoric that's been used for centuries is even more disingenuous. From how strange you write it seems you been 'eatin de poo poo" again.


          • MauMauAfrica

            And will continue to use it as long as it applies. And you have offered nothing new here in defense of your "ahem LIFESTYLE". It is a Lifestyle ,Fool and I don't expect you to understand because with your diseased mindset and the fact that you are prone to ignorance and debauchery, a condition that I can only attribute to your lack of parentage or like most of you Miscreants, your childhood is suspect. I know not why and neither do I care but through History, Homosexuality and it's bi-products, pedophilia etc ,as it been carefully documented has been the downfall of many thriving civilizations but I don't expect you to know that because you're an idiot, However like any wild animal I expect you to keep on defending your LIFESTYLE , like any animal would.


          • Mwatuangi

            I'm not homosexual, first of all. Once again, eating the poo poo people indoctrinate you with. Get the log our of your eye and look into the mirror.


          • MauMauAfrica

            Also, I am not worried about appearing silly to a fool. The fact that you resort to mentioning my semantics, sentence structure, and capitalization says that you're a petty individual whose emotional growth was probably stunted by an uncle or maybe your parents, I don't know but I know the history of African people and no amount of glittering IGNORANCE you espouse will deter me from holding to my ideals or "beliefs". YOU people have your lives and don't expect others to accept it because it makes you look stupid to have such expectations.


          • Mwatuangi

            I resort to mentioning your semantics when they're clearly being used to make a point that's completely illogical and unfounded. Oh yes, you know "african" history, but don't refer to Africa in its original name. Only a fool like yourself would dare speak so naively, let alone obsess as you do over the lives of others. As I've said, I'm not homosexual, but I certainly don't waste my time fantasizing about what they do in their bedrooms or with their significant others to the level that you do. Perhaps you're hiding repressed feelings and spout this nonsense to validate your own inner guilt. As they say, you can leave a block of wood in a river, but it will never become a crocodile. Tuta!


          • MauMauAfrica

            Homosexuality on the Continent , as far as I am concerned and millions of others is just another incursion by interlopers that does not need to be there and serves only to destroy and mimic filth and degradation. It will not serve the greater good there and will be just another DISTRACTION to an already labored population. This country will fall because of it's incessant permissiveness and with it , hopefully the ignominious idea that EVERYTHING is permittable and right.


          • Mwatuangi

            Yeah, an incursion by "interlopers" although it was a perfectly accepted practice before Christian missionaries spread their gospels of ignorance that you so clearly parrot without thinking. Miss me with that shyt.


  7. MauMauAfrica

    The article is on point and furthermore the fact that this gay organization doesn't confront TV ONE but ask for Roland's firing from CNN is playing the race card. Such hypocrisy. Permitting these gay people to have rights is tantamount to allowing people to sexually abuse children, same mindset. Sick Bastards.


  8. Jason Voor

    Ummm do you know who Rashad Robinson is? Obviously not. While he just moved over to work at Color of Change he was the Senior Director of Media Programs for The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) for years. And yes he is a BLACK MALE.

    So, I don't think GLAAD is that white or oppose to black people. Get your facts straight… or gay.


    • cleomanago1

      Jason, I have heard of or have even met the one or two Black people who have chosen to be involved in GLAAD's massively White run organization.


    • sedcalphaman

      Umm can I ask a question Mr Voor, When Shirly Q Liquor was on the comedy circuit in Blackface BLATANTLY offending BOTH black heterosexuals and homosexuals why did it take SOOO long for GLAAD to denounce this obvious racist? Oh yeah, and why didn't your token black employess IMMEDIATELY speak up against this OVERT RACISM? THE DOUBLE STANDARD IS OFFENSIVE!!!!


  9. Don Grayson

    Yes, Jason I have heard of Rashad Robinson. He works with a predominately White organization called GLAAD.


  10. cleomanago1

    Greetings Chi Chi:

    I'm writing to respond to your comments about the "GLAAD Blackophobia" commentary.

    Why can’t or won’t you say that GLAAD is a disproportionately White organization, when it’s true?

    What homosexual terms did Roland Martin use out of context?

    Chi Chi have you ever heard of Joan Rivers or Lisa Lampenelli, two White female comedians who spend half their act making fun of homosexuals, calling them fags and AIDS victims? Why hasn’t GLAAD called them to task, but focused on comedian Tracy Morgan instead, then re-writing what he said?

    Why hasn't GLAAD demanded respect for Black people and called this white gay man to task for his racist depiction of Black women? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YVQ0jfZqsE

    The Black community is not less accepting of homosexuals than Whites. The heads, usually religious heads of anti-homosexuals movements in this country were Jerry Falwell, and are Ted Haggerty, Pat Robertson, and Scott Lively, etc., all White men. In California, when Prop 8 (a bill against gay marriage) passed, it was predominately Whites that made that happen. The main reason that the White gay community has had so much success and political influence, like the Tea Party, is not because people among Whites are less homophobic, but because White people – homosexual or not – have more resources, access and less racism barriers to face in America.

    I don’t condone or use the N word.

    Chi Chi without explaining it, you said. “Yours is a weak argument for several reasons” On this one I agree with what M. Griffin said, “Please illustrate to me the "research" that supports your statement.

    One of your final comments was, “I think that if there were better alliances between the two communities, then there wouldn't be a question of either group feeling threatened or put down by the other.” Chi Chi, there could be better alliances between everybody who is willing to respectfully engage each other. Yet, this recommendation seems ironic coming from you, because you are speaking in support of a predominantly White organization that is not and has not respectfully engaged the Black community.

    Best

    Cleo Manago


    • Bell

      Black people make up LESS than 10% of California's population and we were BLAMED by the gay community for Prop 8, eventhough we are not "deep" in Cali. Catholics poured MILLIONS into California for Prop 8, many catholics are white and latino by the way. COMPANIES also poured millions into Cali for Prop 8, and the gay community STILL blamed a population of less than 10% for the passing of it.


      • Mwatuangi

        That was because proportionately, 70% of the Blacks in the community there voted for the bill. So while we definitely weren't the deciding factor and their criticisms were unfounded in that regard, the high number of Blacks in support of the bill was and remains something worthy of discussion.


  11. m griffin

    Chi Chi:

    Please tell me where in your sordid psychology does this statement emanate from:

    "Lastly, your language tends to provide further insight into your own phobia regarding Whiteness, male femininity and the subsequent promotion of hyper-masculinity in SGL, gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men"

    I dont recall mentioning anything about male effeminity vs hypermasculinity. All that I asked for you to do is to show me your "research" indicating that Black community was more homophobic than white. I then challenged you to take your lesbian self to a white Pentecosttal revival in the Deep South to get a reality check. Instead your reponses indicate that you are having some gender dysphoria issues. Please take this elsewhere


  12. m griffin

    Addressing this to he correct person….

    Hypnotique:

    Chi Chi:

    Please tell me where in your sordid psychology does this statement emanate from:

    "Lastly, your language tends to provide further insight into your own phobia regarding Whiteness, male femininity and the subsequent promotion of hyper-masculinity in SGL, gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men"

    I dont recall mentioning anything about male effeminity vs hypermasculinity. All that I asked for [Chi Chi] to do is to show me her "research" indicating that Black community was more homophobic than white. I then challenged her to take her Black lesbian self to a white Pentecostal revival in the Deep South to get a reality check.

    Instead, Hyponotique, your reponses indicate that you are having some gender dysphoria issues. Please take this elsewhere.


  13. dat

    You write: What Morgan actually said, as part of a comedy riff about Gay bullying was, “[If my son ever talks to me about being bullied, he] “better talk to me like a man and not in a gay voice or I’ll pull out a knife and stab that little ni**er to death.” What Morgan actually meant by “gay voice” was a voice that was not “manly” or “masculine.”

    Homophobia includes not only "If you're gay I'll kill you," but also, "If you don't fit my definition of a man I'll kill you." So Morgan's "gay voice" statement is a homophobic statement — whether or not Morgan meant it to be understood that way. Just like when Ted Danson did blackface that was racist, whether he meant it that way or not.

    You assume that the decision-makers at GLAAD are white, and also that their decisions are "white" decisions. You seems to be suggesting that only black SGL men can criticize black homophobes. That too is racist.

    The Roland S. Martin comments as quoted above are ambiguous in my view, so I don't feel comfortable with asking him to be fired. However, we all well know that both racists and homophobes use language that has two meanings to communicate with people that share their prejudices. It's one of the corrosive effects of racism and homophobia that the prevalence of disguised phobic statements — "dog whistle" language — makes people suspicious and sensitive when there is actually no problem. You can think GLAAD are wrong about Martin while still understanding that they have a reason to be suspicious of statements like Martin's, which impose a particular masculine stereotype, as being simply disguised homophobia.

    Comparing what GLADD does to what the KKK did, and to lynching, is both absurd and disgraceful.


    • cleomanago1

      dat '

      You write: You seems to be suggesting that only black SGL men can criticize black homophobes. That too is racist. (end)

      I’m not one to suggest, or play word games. I say it as I see it. No need to read between the lines, because there are no lines. I never suggested, said or implied that only SGL men can criticize homophobes. Anyone who wants to can criticize so-called homophobes.

      Like I said, there was more to Morgan’s comments than what White gays chose to modify and rearrange, then accuse him of so-called homophobia. The nuances and cultural context would have been clearer if they would not have chosen to change his words.

      I concur with your perspective regarding firing Martin.

      You write: You Comparing what GLADD does to what the KKK did, and to lynching, is both absurd and disgraceful. (end)

      GLAAD lords over an often racist, Black marginalizing White gay and mainstream society, saying little or nothing about that. Then rages against a slew of Black men, misquoting some to selfishly manipulate their point. That’s absurd and disgraceful, let alone hypocritical.


  14. Chi-Chi

    I'm not choosing a side here. I just feel that there are certain things that don't need to be commented on. I don't understand why someone who is in the public eye needs to address to the world exactly why he doesn't see an underwear ad with david beckham necessary. I don't understand why if a child is being bullied that he doesn't need to have a "gay" voice. I think that these were poorly thought out statements.

    And I also think that if there were more people in the public eye from the black community that said positive things about the lgbtq community that it wouldn't be viewed as such an unaccepting group. And this information comes from personal experience as well as what is visibly shown to the nation. How many caucasian celebrities and artists are lined up supporting the HRC? I can't even really count. I wish I could say the same about well known Black personalities, but I can't. Joan Rivers could get slammed all day long but the fact of the matter is that she's a huge supporter of the lgbtq community. she gives back a lot. bea arthur, when she died, gave thousands of dollars to homeless gay youth. i just don't see these stories coming from a lot of minority groups. and i think that they should. i think that would be phenomenal.

    I am more than willing to admit when I'm wrong, but the fact is that I don't have to go to the "deep south" to get a reality check. I'm from the south. Perhaps you might not have had the same experiences as me, but I don't think that anyone is posing a war on these men. I think that it is a step too far to take away someone's job for a slightly inappropriate tweet, but I think it's necessary for people who are tired of having the word "gay" associated with a negative connotation to stick up for themselves. And if that organization is mostly caucasian and it's a non-profit organization that involves thousands of volunteers, then you have to ask yourself why is it mostly caucasian? There's many races and nationalities that make up the lgbtq community. and i do realize that the black lgbtq community is smaller than the caucasian lgbtq community, but an organization can only be the people that step in to make it work. I'm sure that not every one of those people is white, but it's the simple fact that there are a lot of organizations in the south for lgbtq and most of them are white as well. And I don't think that is because of discrimination against black people or anyone else.


    • cleomanago1

      Chi Chi

      I appreciate your comments, while you didn't really answer the questions. You never provided the "research" supporting your statement that my argument was weak. Your disagreeing with me does not mean my argument is weak. I never accused GLAAD of discriminating. I said they were predominately and disproportionately white, that they changed Morgan's words then called him homophobic, and that their vicious attack on Roland was opportunistic and racist, and that they have raged against too many Black men.


      • Chi-Chi

        There is no need for research for an original argument that provided no research himself. If you can honestly tell me that GLAAD has "only" been outraged by black men, then I will eat my words. However, if these examples….these "pillars of the black community" are the only ones that you can provide to us, then I don't think that GLAAD can be considered as having a war on black men.

        And I, as a black person, find Morgan's words to be homophobic. I think he made a poor joke and I find it offensive. I think that they have a right to be outraged by the actual statement. I don't think that changing the statement is right, however, I don't think that it should be ignored and accepted. And I also believe that the reason why President Obama has been a target for gay groups is because every president has been a target for gay groups since the gay movements began.

        One note though. You wanted me to provide you with "research" that supports my statements that the black community is not as supportive of it's lgbtq community. You mentioned in another article written a year ago that "every day black folk are just not interested in HIV AIDS or most issues with that as the sole focus." It's interesting that in your current argument you mention how a predominantly white organization should be flogged for their outrage over homophobic slurs and yet in a previous article, you mark the black community for not being concerned with an issue that has haunted the lgbtq community as a whole for years. This disinterest in such a "hot topic" in the gay community can only prove that the black community is also "not as concerned" about issues to do with the gay community.


        • cleomanago1

          Chi Chi, I never said GLAAD only attacked Black men. But I can say that ONLY a Black commentator, a Black comedian, a Black Athlete, and a Black actor faced firing and fines over GLAAD's [predominantly White] mafia-styled behavior. And that they only changed the words of a Black man (Morgan), because they had to misconstrue his words to build their case.

          Back when I mentioned that "black folk are just not interested in HIV AIDS or most issues with that as the sole focus", I was talking about same gender loving (SGL) folks primarily, Black homosexuals. Also, the context of that article was a different topic not related to this one.

          Back to the research issue. I was not concerned about you doing research, I asked you to back up how my "argument" was weak. You didn't do that.


  15. m griffin

    Chi Chi:

    One question:

    How many white men has GLAAD targeted to the same degree as Roland Martin? Tracey Morgan? They currently have at least three enormous targets: Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney. Why is this spat with Roland Martin the only one making making the front page?

    Roland Martin's comments are irrelevant and dubious…why is GLAAD ramping this one to the hilt with Rick Santorum winning today's Michigan and Missouri caucases without a mumbling word? Have you or they heard Rick Santorum's diatribes lately????

    So you hail from the South??? Did you live and interact in the South as a Black lesbian woman or did you live outside the Black comminity? Do you reverse what you previously uttered about Black versus White community homophobia or did you just land on the last Space Shuttle?

    My sister and closest friends are Black SGL women from the South…they tell me a completely different story. How is it that your experience is so different???? Is it because you are "special"?

    I think we may be getting warm now Chi Chi. However, no need to reply…I am not sure that an honest response wiill be forthcoming anyway. Just keep advocating for GLAAD while proudly proclaiming that the Black community is more homophobic than white community.

    Sounds like an allegience that we need to explore just a litlte more closely. And, oh , how many times I have found out that the "political" is really the "personal".


    • Chi-Chi

      I am not downing your opinion m griffin. I live in the south as a black lesbian and I grew up here. My experiences are not special, however, I don't take every opportunity to call myself a "victim" of segregation, racism, homophobia, etc. As stated beforehand, I am not supporting one particular view here. I think that these comments were in poor taste and I don't take pride in knowing that they were said from the Black community. I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it.

      GLAAD has attacked much more than just these black men. They have attacked people like Mel Gibson, Eminem, even Katie Perry. It's not just one race and specifically one sex within that race that they have targeted. I will admit that for his comments on his twitter, I don't think that Roland's job should be taken. I feel that's going a bit too far.

      But my main point is that there's not been a whole lot of positive reinforcement for the lgbtq community from well known black personalities and i don't think that's a coincidence. You can rage all day about how people are being prejudiced against black people, but caucasian's are not the only racist people in the world. No one jumps all over black comedians who make jokes about white people. The simple fact is that people are responsible for what they say. They are responsible for what they do.

      Even if these statements were said in a joking manner, it's statements like this that makes it more difficult for people in the black community to come out of the closet as whoever they are. Being raised in a black baptist church and hearing the attitudes that the great majority of people had and have about the lgbtq community is discouraging. It's tragic.

      And I feel that this article is pointing the finger at an organization that is there to protect the rights and opinions of people who are lgbtq, whatever race they are. There are plenty of people who should be offended by these comments, because they are distasteful and rude. But instead of addressing the nature of the comments and the fact that perhaps they didn't need to be said out in the public light, we're focusing on how someone else is out to get the black community.

      I understand that you are riled by my opinion, but you haven't stated any facts or research yourself. As a matter of fact, no one has. All of these comments are based on personal opinion. That's what a forum is.


  16. m griffin

    Still no research Chi Chi but I do have a better sense of your biased worldview. Just a few more observations on questions you have raised, and I quote:

    "And if that organization is mostly caucasian and it's a non-profit organization that involves thousands of volunteers, then you have to ask yourself why is it mostly caucasian?"

    Now ChiChi just because an organization is voluntary doesnt mean that its welcoming. A good ole Southern girl such as yourself should recognize this phenomena having dealt with the Soukthern church… Keep it up and I am going to take your card back Chi Chi.

    .
    "I'm sure that not every one of those people is white, but it's the simple fact that there are a lot of organizations in the south for lgbtq and most of them are white as well. And I don't think that is because of discrimination against black people or anyone else"

    Now Chi Chi you dont sound so convincing… so you dont think that segregated lgbtq communities in the South is because of discrimination against Blacks. Interesting conviction.


  17. J Narvaez

    Yes, you broke down the semantics really well! But, unfortunately, something is to be said about the overall connotation these comments leave. Although, the prejudices are wrapped up with in a cultural dialect, the "anti-gay" undertones are poignant. In fact, as I read this article I realized just how all of the comments quoted are permeated with disgusting prejudices and "isms" on a variety of levels. Carelessness is something we still need to take responsibility for when it comes to communication, terminology and perception.


  18. cleomanago1

    J. Narvaez, yes, we do need to take responsibility. GLAAD does too. Likely they won't. They never have before. I definitely see problems in Martin's and even Morgan's comments, which is why I referred to them as "problematic." Yet, GLAAD needs to back off it's racism, and it's mincing of words to prepare their attack campaigns.


  19. Tyson

    Great article and about time some Black gay person stood up if you want community yiu have to be community.


  20. Shannon

    lol….Poor blacks upset that the p.c. that they push on others is being directed at them.

    Ever get tired of being the victim?


  21. Jamail

    You'd think that some Homo who takes a member in their digestive tract would have thicker skin. At least some scar tissue there.

    Lighten up queers.


  22. Nandi

    This article spreads mis-information and functions to inflame tensions between the Black and Gay community. GLAAD has in no way launched a war on Black men. I'm baffled as to how someone who claims to be same-gender-loving can excuse comments made by Roland Martin regarding members of the gay community. As a Black Lesbian I am all to familiar with the unfair practice within the community of putting Black solidarity before our own demands for justice. This behavior has led to distorted views of this issue such as the ones being espoused on this blog. From one Black Homo to another: Shame on You Cleo Mango!


  23. cleomanago1

    Nandi, please give readers an example, at least 2 (or more if you like), of the mis-information in my comments that I am spreading. Please don't paraphrase. You might just consider cutting and pasting the examples directly from what I wrote.

    Thank you.

    CM


  24. Don Schenk

    So it's okay to be "racist" if you're homophiliac…


  25. [...] his article entitled, “Is GLAAD’s Blackophobic and waging war on Black Men?” writer Cleo Manago [...]


  26. Art

    We are just not going resolve this argument between the gay community and other communities within our lifetime. So, I argue that we should just go ahead and get it over with and enter into our second civil war. Let's just battle it out and see who comes out on top and go with that…believe me, we are not going to resolve this issue.


  27. DeuCalion669

    Back in the day. We had Civil Rights Pimps. Today we have Black gay rights Pimps.
    They have one thing in common and that is not TO HAVE TO WORK.


  28. Mwatuangi

    Interesting points, and while I would like for them to develop more constructive ways to handle the issues of homophobia, I can't agree that they're "Blakphobic" given their recognition of Blacks in the LGBT community, especially Black LGBT's who were a part of the Civil Rights Movement, like Bayard Rustin, Audre Lorde, Alice Walker, Langston Hughes, and Angela Davis. An organization being white-dominated doesn't automatically mean it will be inherently racist, although it can lead to cultural miscommunication and biases, and in several cases, sensationalism. I will say that they have done their best to try to not paint Blacks as especially homophobic ever since the unfortunate fiasco with Prop 8.

    As for Martin, the guy's got a well-known history of homophobic sentiment, which I think is what inevitably led to him being suspended rather than the actual tweets themselves; he's not only part of a pseudo-scientific "ex-gay therapy" program, but also made comparisons to alcoholics when discussing his position on homosexuality in the church in an editorial. You of course know that he also defended Morgan's blatantly homophobic statement.

    While Morgan didn't explicitly mention gays, in our community, effeminate males are still commonly associated with being homosexual due to stereotypes, machismo, and the pecking order. Thus, in essence, – and having relatives who were killed and friends who committed suicide because of this stigma- it's easy to see how his joke could translate into homophobia without explicitly describing it, due to what effeminate behavior implies for some in our community, as well as others. Regardless, joking about killing your son for being effeminate is equally problematic, as you've stated and worthy of condescension. They also naturally would not respond to his use of the n-word because it's a colloquial term that is accepted by some in our community. GLAAD would especially be out of place policing Blacks on how to refer to themselves.

    This blog brings up an interesting point about stigmas against effeminate Black men: http://www.glaad.org/blog/guest-post-open-letter-

    It is important to note that GLAAD also recently condemned a spate of racist attacks against Martin, hardly the thing you'd expect from a "blakphobic" group out to lynch us.

    As for your other examples, I don't see how Isaiah Washington, who deliberately insulted a co-worker with a slur and denied it before giving an apology, didn't deserve what he got. He clearly lynched himself in how he handled his professionalism and the media's reaction to it.

    T.I.'s discussion of the issue may have reverberated through the net, but GLAAD never publicly condemned T.I.'s controversial argument on free speech, let alone stopped him from making music. Kobe caught some heat for the slur, but he's still making millions and playing basketball. The only reason he could be "hurting" right now is because of his recent divorce settlement. Roland Martin will most likely receive overwhelming support from those who share his views and earn his own radio show if he hasn't already, and Barack's still president and will most likely win the next election.

    If anything, all this so-called controversy GLAAD drums up with their dog-whistles on the most part tends to generate more popularity and rarely becomes effective enough to end a career. Nonetheless, your opinions were a pleasure to read.


    • cleomanago1

      Greetings Mwatuangi. I'm quite familiar with GLAAD, and it's racist tunnel vision. That GLAAD has their recognition of Blacks "in the LGBT community", especially who were a part of the Civil Rights Movement, like Bayard Rustin, Audre Lorde, Alice Walker, Langston Hughes, and Angela Davis," is no more relevant than McDonald's willingness to have Black's in their commercials. GLAAD's is a token gesture to lure Blacks into their agenda. You didn't mention James Baldwin. For some reason this brilliant, out (which Bayard was not), same- gender-loving (SGL) Black freedom fighter often doesn't make the list. I presented a more in depth view of my position on these matters in my follow-up article 'Getting at the Root of Black "Homophobic" Speech' 'http://www.afro.com/sections/opinion/story.htm?storyid=74083 . Thanks for your comments, sincerely.


 
 



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