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by Damion White (in response to Jeneba Ghatt’s piece on 11.24.11)
Let’s get this out of the way while the man is still within decent range of Mitt Romney’s heels: Herman Cain is not fit to be President of the United States of America.
It has nothing to do with his domestic policies, utter lack of knowledge (and irreverent approach to) foreign policy. Nothing to do with the inadequate campaign organization he has established on the ground (barely) in states that will be critical to the upcoming GOP primary. Herman Cain is just too dumb to be president. Did you see either of his late night talk show interviews? Embarrassing, awkward … “Meet the Parents” are all descriptors that jump out in my mind.
Sure, Herman Cain was CEO of Godfather’s pizza from the mid ‘80’s to mid ‘90’s; that counts for very little in my book. Prior to being CEO of Godfather’s Pizza – which sounds more like a frat-boy, stoner dream job than anything else – he was a civilian, ballistics mathematician for the Navy. Cain’s skills and knowledge are quantitative in nature. This means Herman Cain is good with numbers, as in he knew how many cans of tomato sauce to order to maximize profits for a retail pizza chain. However, I adamantly conjecture that being the executive of the most powerful government on Earth – one that Republicans jump at the chance to remind us is not a business (it doesn’t produce or manufacture anything) – is a skill set that is more qualitative in nature.
Let us dispel the notion – if Herman Cain’s campaign has not already done so – that holding a C-Level executive position automatically qualifies one as intelligent. I have been around the block a few times and can assure the American people that being CEO does not unequivocally ensure an individual’s level of intelligence. Anyone with good enough credit and a unique business name can go to their local bank and take out a business loan. Poof – now you’re a CEO!
And let us also be clear: I am defining intelligence as the ability to act in such a way that is appropriate to settings, circumstances, and coded expectations, such that it is evident that critical thinking, common-sense and social aptitude provides the basis for one’s actions. Has Herman Cain exhibited the ability to act in such a way? Has he acted presidential at all, or even requisite with that of a former executive?
I cannot think of anytime that he has.
In electing the leader of the free world, let us not evaluate a man based on the titles a man has held; let us judge a man based upon the content of his character and the context created by his actions.
Gaffe after gaffe, backtrack after backtrack – not to mention the now very public scandal (that was first concocted by his GOP adversaries, but now for which the Democratic Party is responsible) – Herman Cain’s clear disregard for being serious tells me he is too unintelligent to even fake it as having the aptitude to be president of the United States.
Different from most Americans – especially those reveling in the fact that Herman Cain is relatable or like them – I imagine myself as president through the lenses of candidates’ eyes, and when I envision holding office as Herman Cain, the vision only ends badly. I don’t imagine myself as President Cain, marching gaily to the tune of a chorus of American laughter and “9-9-9” flat-tax bliss, where the people who are not rich suddenly blame themselves and thus eradicate all of the country’s problems.
In my vision I see the angry faces of Spanish speakers annoyed that the American president was dumb enough to believe that “Cuban” is a language, and that the American people were dumb enough allow such a boneheaded mistake.
I see other world leaders like that of Uzbekistan (pronounced Ubeki-beki-beki-stani-stan-stan) laughing hysterically at the thought of an imminent American decline accelerated by several generations. I see the collective scowl of women who have actually fought and stood up for their rights and for equal treatment in the workplace slighted by the election of someone who has all but admitted to abusing his power in business to harass women.
Let’s all shoot a video showcasing our top reference smoking a cigarette and send those videos to potential employers. How many employers would hire anyone using such tactics? Would you ever seriously consider this as a way to vie for the job of President of the United States? Would you call the person who did smart?
The president should be presidential. The requirement is that one present his or herself as extraordinary, whether or not he or she came from humble beginnings. If being relatable and common were the qualities that we the people – the employers of our government officials – should be looking for, then maybe your next door neighbor should be president.
Get my drift?
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42 Responses to COUNTERPOINT: Cain Too Dumb To Fail
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No one paid me. I was not paid. I contributed this to the "intelligent dialogue" reluctantly; I have said that paying Cain attention in this way only furthers the current American sickness that is celebrating mediocrity. I apologize for the generalization, but don't you just love "Dancing With the Stars?"
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FreshLook11 says:
Mediocrity? Do you realize the most 'mediocre' and anti-intellectual narrative is that of victimization/entitlement narrative of the Left? The Left wants economic slavery and dependency on govt, and no self respecting person should accept that slavery. Until you reject that demeaning narrative, dont even talk of intelligence, mediocrity etc.
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You speak as of this "narrative" as if it is fact. It is merely your opinion of the political positions of one party. If Herman Cain were really courageous enough to uphold conservative ideals while addressing the real world problems we face as a society, and do so pragmatically, maybe then this debate might be worth it. To say that the "leftist" narrative is one that wants its constituency enslaved to government is foolhardy and a downright conspiracy theory. Talk about mediocrity and lacking intelligence.
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There is no question of any conspiracy theory. It is a basic tenet of Left ideology to make people dependent on govt (the god of the Left) which in turn helps to control peoples lives in all ways, as people will then be at mercy of govt for livelihood. A simple point: Look at this video starting 1:35 on the question on welfare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAqNeB7fNt0 Cain says, his principle on welfare is to "Help those who help themselves". The Left cannot afford to say that, as in that case, people will soon become self-reliant, entrepreneurs, business people, rising up the corporate ladder, want to compete and excel in the market place etc – that is almost a nightmare scenario for the Left. Mark my words, it will be the blacks who will fight the Left the hardest.
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You cannot prove a conspiracy theory by highlighting a point made by Herman Cain in a one-off interview question about his stance on welfare. Welfare was designed to help those who help themselves; in times very similar to these, no less. Just as the rich abuse tax loopholes (welfare for the wealthy), or as corporations want to be treated as people (more welfare for the wealthy), or as congressmen and women abuse the privilege of holding office by chartering jets, etc. some on the lower rungs of society abuse the resources available to them. The problem is not a left or a right problem, it is a lacking in self-awareness problem; our collective inability to face what is looking back at us in the mirror. It is a problem that stems from EVERYONE wanting something for nothing. The closest thing we've got to actual "trickle down" economics is corner cutting and the attitude that the world owes us something. Just the same as the American taxpayers not owing something to the mother of 5, living in the ghetto that was abused as a child, the American taxpayers don't owe anything to success stories either. We don't all have the same lot in life; or equal opportunity – a democracy could not exist if we did – it's that simple. Being truly wealthy in this country is nearly as anomalous as winning the lottery – Herman Cain, Donald Trump, Oprah, Bill Gates (and he will agree to this) have all benefited from circumstance, environmental factors, and downright luck breaks. It's the right that fails to acknowledge that it is not all bootstraps and sweat equity (ahem… George W. Bush) for fear that the societal structure that they have worked so many centuries to preserve may begin to revise itself if folks awaken to the fact that there is something to be said for the sense of entitlement created in this country by the superiority complex of the few. I do however, agree with Herman Cain that I have to be twice as good as the average man just to get his lot in life – as Martin Luther King stated as well – I intend to be wealthy as a result, but acknowledge that I already have, and will continue to have to benefit from circumstance, environmental factors, and the occasional lucky break working in conjunction with my extraordinary work ethic.
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A truly intellectually dishonest piece. Going from "ballistics mathematician" with the Navy to "can of soup counting" just indicates the writer either doesn't know what a "ballistics mathematician" does – and thus couldn't put a negative spin on it, or he is deliberately writing in such a way as to throw as negative a light on Cain as possible.
Ignoring the fact that President Obama didn't realize that "Austrian" wasn't a language spoken by the people of Austria, but slamming Cain for saying Cubans might speak "Cuban." is another example of either ignorance or an attempt to paint a negative picture of Cain.
The piece is riddled with such dishonesty or ignorance. Nice try, but big #FAIL.
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This is opinion based on observation and some high-level, low-intensity research. It is not intellectually dishonest, because I have said nothing that is untrue. You may opine that relating Cain's civilian work to "can of soup counting" is a misrepresentation of that work, but it supports the claim that his skill set is quantitative in nature. And quite frankly saying Cubans speak Cuban is barely similar to the Austrian gaffe (if Obama really is on record as having made such a mistake); having studied German for 9 years I know that most Americans don't have the geographic prowess to even know Austria's proximity to Germany. So the Austrian mistake is a mistake, but not as an egregious one as Cain's Cuban gaffe. Furthermore, I did not use anyone else's successes or failures to prove my points about Cain, which begs the question, why are you bringing up Obama? My aim was not political here. Herman Cain is just dumb. Get over it.
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More like very low-level, very low-intensity research. The piece could be used in a classroom to illustrate intellectual dishonesty in 21st Century American "media."
You really should have done more research on Herman Cain (like reading the Cain profile available at Bloomberg Businessweek (http://tinyurl.com/7ndm7cs)). You would have found that the vast majority of his work experience was qualitative in nature. Working at the Director level (which he's done SEVERAL times for different organizations), and working at the CEO level in any company, involves all of the skills you listed as necessary to have the type of "intelligence" you state are required to be President of the U.S. These are positions that require a balanced combination of skills.
The "slight of hand" move from "ballistics mathematician" to "can counter" is just one example of the intellectual dishonesty of your piece. Contrary to your assertion, intellectual dishonesty does not require that you state something that is untrue; Intellectual dishonesty can be displayed by making statements that pull facts or events out of one context and place them in another so as to paint a biased picture. It can also be displayed by ignoring facts or events that run counter to your argument. That is exactly what you did.
The "Austrian vs. Cuban" mistake nonsense you wrote is just that. The fact that you actually don't know that Obama made the "Austrian" mistake is instructive. If you were actually doing true research before writing such pieces you would have encountered the facts regarding Obama's "gaffe." Instead, you write biased pieces based on opinions that are not actually backed by true in-depth knowledge, just your "feelings" about the candidate and a few tidbits you've picked up from the Huffington Posts and MSNBCs and Politico's of the world. I've been to Austria and Germany and the fact that Obama made such a statement standing in Europe speaks directly to your "vision" paragraph, which is just one of the reasons I brought Obama into the discussion. Just change the person and language in your "vision" paragraph and you'll "get it":
"In my vision I see the angry faces of German speakers annoyed that the American president was dumb enough to believe that “Austrian” is a language, and that the American people were dumb enough allow such a boneheaded mistake."
If being a mathematician with a BS degree in Mathematics, holding an MS degree in Computer Science, working in the IT field, working at the Director level and CEO level of several companies, and being a Pastor equal "dumb" in your mind, then I question your definition of "dumb." Writing articles without doing adequate research is pretty dumb in my mind. Frankly, the fact that any black American would denigrate Herman Cain like this and claim he is "dumb" in this way is just embarrassing. Reminds me of kids attacking the brainiac in school because they can't figure out why he's successful (hard work, DOING RESEARCH on his/her own, and dedication). Cain has more intelligence (both qualitative and quantitative) than most black and white people running around talking him down apparently.
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Again, this piece was about Cain, not Obama.This was not to make any other candidate or campaign appear any more or less credible based on what Herman Cain has done or has failed to do. If you really want to talk about intellectual dishonesty lets talk about this society's rampant inclination to justify their argument A on the basis of what irrelevant argument B is. How about sticking to a conversation about A; its merits and shortcomings,alone. Talking about Cain's gaffes in the absence of Obama's don't make Cain's gaffes any less foolish. Mind you Cain – or any other GOP candidate for that matter has not won a primary election yet. So publishing a piece on my observations of the Cain campaign is neither intellectually dishonest, or warranting a greater adherence to journalistic ethics. This is not an expose; it's merely commentary of all the dumb things that have stacked up against good 'ol Herman in a short time. Defend the buffoonery as you might, but it cannot steer the conversation from that which is the truth of his repeatedly dumbfounding campaign. And for the record being a CEO, and having advanced degrees in Mathematics and Computer Science, and being a Pastor are in fact not dumb, but I assure you that there are plenty of dumb Mathematician, computer-scientist pastors in the world. And also, I couldn't care less that Herman Cain is black – I don't claim black America. There is no singular consciousness among white Americans, and I won't accept any attempt to force me to identify with that which I don't agree with on some level just because I share an ethnic tie with the man; that is downright offensive.
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P.S. As to the degree to which the Cuban/Austian gaffes are analogous I pose two questions as to the prevalence of each population:
Are German Americans or Latino Americans a more important constituency to our political process in this country? I know several 2nd generation German immigrants that don't even speak the language. I know 3rd and 4th generation Latino immigrants that speak nothing but Spanish in their homes (or Cuban if you asked Herman). This is by no means an adequate sample size, but most Americans that are of European descent identify as simply being American. Taking that prevalence of population out of context is not going to make Herman Cain any more electable. I – for your sake – wish it would.
Secondly, how does Cain not know this? Austria is 4,420 miles from the USA; Cuba 228 miles from US soil. Does proximity not increase the degree of severity of this flub? Cain wants a pass for not being worldly or knowing about foreign policy, but I cannot fathom a president without such basic knowledge as this.
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Cain was talking in a very informal/casual setting, and was kind of asking ''what do you locally call delicious as'. it is not a context about being academically/technically accurate. In such casual, unguarded conversations, many things that are not accurate will be said by all of us. It actually speaks of desperation to make this an issue. On the contrary. Obama was giving a formal speech in front of formal audience. But, I would not nit-pick on Obama either, as that can happen to anyone. There are more serious/larger issues to worry about.
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You can't revise the context of this situation – it's on video for crying out loud! Come on. I agree that this is far more trivial than our flailing economy, but ask Herman Cain about that and all you get is "9-9-9" followed by a poorly rehearsed, sputtering and stammering through what the heck it is supposed to mean or intends to do. It loses me at reduce taxes for the wealthy and apparently a vast majority of Americans side with me on this one (GOP'ers and Dems alike). The bottom line is I don't know a lot of 17 year old kids that wouldn't automatically associate Cuba with speaking Spanish. I bet if you asked Herman Cain what language they speak in Brazil, he'd reply "Brazilian" or even worse he'd likely conjecture that Canadians speak Canadian. There are much larger issues, you are right, and this kind of idiocy is why I wouldn't spend my vote on the likes of Herman Cain. Maybe this kind of thing doesn't exclude a candidate in your mind, but I came of age during a cartoonish presidency and don't want to live through another one, especially now that I am responsible for the life of my child. Seems critical enough to me.
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Here's my detailed response on the "Cuban" language nonsense. Had to post it at my own site, since the politic365.com site keeps deleting my post on this: http://the3ltrwd.blogspot.com/2011/12/when-callin…
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You are absolutely mistaken if you believed I expected a "greater adherence to journalistic ethics." You didn't meet the MINIMUM standards. Not sure why this wasn't clear from my first posting. I should have made it clearer.
Your "stick to argument A" statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever if you did not (up front) inform your audience that you only want to see replies that did not include references to outside people/events. You want to control the discussion by locking down the information that can be presented. That's fine. Just tell your audience ahead of time what you expect. A reader replying with outside information is not using "intellectual dishonesty." It's an example of someone actually using their brain and doing outside research and then bringing that information into the discussion. It's clear that you have no idea what "intellectual dishonesty" actually is. Amazing.
Concerning "buffoonery," clearly you were engaged in "buffoonery" by co-opting racist/bigoted imagery and propaganda to denigrate a highly educated, extremely experienced black man. Taking offense when called out on it is "standard operating procedure" for black Americans who find it acceptable to denigrate a conservative black American because of his/her political leanings, because they don't like the way they look, because they have an accent that's deemed "country," or whatever other reason they want to come up with. I didn't expect anything but that you'd take offense to being called out on it.
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>> Herman Cain is not fit to be President of the United States of America.
As proved, by your mere assertion?
>> It has nothing to do with his domestic policies, utter lack of knowledge (and irreverent approach to) foreign policy.
I am sure, it have everything to do with your fallacy of 'proof by assertion'? "According to former Reagan Treasury official Gary Robbins, of Fiscal Associates, the 9-9-9 Plan will expand GDP by $2 trillion, create 6 million new jobs, increase business investment by one third, and increase wages by 10%" http://longislandpatriot.wordpress.com/2011/11/24… It is ok to debate policy and counter the claims like these, but mere assertions make no sense.
>> Did you see either of his late night talk show interviews? Embarrassing, awkward
Many happen to think that Cains is absolutely brilliant on those talk shows. Cain himself was a talk show host, and wit is surely one of his strong points.
>> Anyone with good enough credit and a unique business name can go to their local bank and take out a business loan. Poof – now you’re a CEO!
Except that Cain started off in poverty/segregation, overcame racial obstacles etc to head businesses. What is more, with his brilliant oratory, can inspire many. How many today can make speeches like this: http://www.cainscorner.com/2011/04/do-you-dare-to… And yes, anyone who can convince a sizeable section that they have a record, acheivements and a plan to fix economy etc can run for President.
>> Gaffe after gaffe, backtrack after backtrack – not to mention the now very public scandal
Except that, most of them are much a do about nothings, deperate misrepresentations. The desparation is because, if Cain is allowed to be around, he will hit the last nails on the Left coffin with his influential oratory and speeches.
>> where the people who are not rich suddenly blame themselves and thus eradicate all of the country’s problems.
Typical left cry-baby attitude? Most of the so-called rich are rags-to-riches stories like Herman Cain himself. And indeed, ALL should strive to dream and make it big, to whatever extent they want, in this land of opportunities. A victimization attitude, as an excuse for failure is self-demeaning. No self-respecting person should take to such defeatist narratives of the Left.
>> American president was dumb enough to believe that “Cuban” is a language
There is indeed Cuban dialect http://t.co/JXFL6C6Q. He said that in a very informal/casual setting, as kind of asking 'what do locals from Cuba call delicious as'. Whats the big deal? How about Obama in a formal setting believing that 'Austrian' is a language? http://t.co/o87Wa1s5
>> I see other world leaders like that of Uzbekistan (pronounced Ubeki-beki-beki-stani-stan-stan) laughing
Only if they are dumb enough, not to understand the point being made. The question asked was how do you deal with a Gotcha question and he was just illustrating that leadership is about values/principles/direction/discernment/decisions and not like mugging up for a pop quiz.
>> women who have actually fought and stood up for their rights and for equal treatment in the workplace slighted by the election of someone who has all but admitted to abusing his power in business to harass women.
Really? Can you even tell/list what exactly Cain is supposed to have said or did to each alleged accuser – leave alone he admitting? Please dont trivialize serious issue of sexual harassment by mixing up with unknown/unreported claims and stories, which look more like a political hit-job.
>> The president should be presidential.
As in what? There is no single definition of looking 'presidential'. Its more simple than such subjective trivialities. The right approach is to look at Cains 999 or other policy pronouncements, policy documents released etc by Cain and other contenders and vote based on that. So, instead of mere 'proof by assertion', please raise the level of debate, by engaging in a constructive debate on why you think 999 wont help etc.
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Clearly you work for the Cain campaign or are in the Cain family. This is not an attempt to prove anything, and it is not an attempt to prove things by assertion; in case you have trouble recognizing what section of the publication you are in, this is opinion. I am not trying to expose Herman Cain, apparently he likes to do that to himself (in more ways than one)! I am simply coloring the landscape he has created with his buffoonery and soft-shoe appeal. This piece was what I see when I close my eyes and imagine a world where I am Herman Cain and President of the United States. There was no question posed to Cain about handling gotcha questions. The question was about foreign policy, and even if the question were about handling "gotcha questions" (a phrase that should have died with Palin's half-term governorship) what a stupid response he gave. Not to mention Libya, China, and the like. He keeps alluding to his top advisers – at this rate he's going to need every former president still living to round out his cabinet. I have great uncles with no high school education that speak more articulately than Cain.
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>> I am not trying to expose Herman Cain, apparently he likes to do that to himself (in more ways than one)!
Again, as if the desperate clutching of straws by the Left in media etc can be called exposing.
>> I am simply coloring the landscape he has created with his buffoonery and soft-shoe appeal.
Don’t forget, that there is nothing more buffoonery, self-demeaning, encouraging of mediocrity than the victimization/entitlement narrative of Left. What is worse, those on left are too dumb to be proud to create economic slaves and medicrity.
>> There was no question posed to Cain about handling gotcha questions.
Have you even read the reports where he made the comment on 'Ubeki-beki-beki-stani-stan-stan', before commenting? What was the question asked? So much, for your talk on 'mediocrity' etc.
>> even if the question were about handling "gotcha questions" (a phrase that should have died with Palin's half-term governorship) what a stupid response he gave.
You will be even eligible to talk of Palin, once you condemn the self-demeaning/dehumanizing Left narrative of victimization/entitlement and their attempt to create mediocrity and economic slavery to govt.
>> Not to mention Libya, China, and the like.
On Libya, he had a pause, but he was ultimately right to point out the issue of Islamist elements in opposition rebels and lack of seriousness in taking position on that. Regarding China, it was much a do about nothing, on one fast paced sentence (desperate clutching of straws?), he could be talking of more capability or Nuclear Aircraft Carrier.
>> He keeps alluding to his top advisers – at this rate he's going to need every former president still living to round out his cabinet.
Every president has to have advisers, experts, academicians, intelligence agencies etc to provide various inputs. What news in that.
>> I have great uncles with no high school education that speak more articulately than Cain.
Really? Can you upload a few of their public speeches, and we can compare with Cain's speeches like this: http://www.cainscorner.com/2011/04/do-you-dare-to…
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I need to find the ancient scrolls containing the victimization narrative of the left. I know enough, have studied enough, have experienced enough to know that my beliefs have nothing to do with this supposed narrative and that there are real solutions to actual make American ideals ring more than hollow. Please, convince me, enlighten me to my ignorance. Show me this narrative of the left, and how it has been so effectively cloaked in secrecy and allowed to enslave a population without that population being any the wiser. I see you repeat that in nearly every comment, and it invokes the spirit of the Tea Party, 9-9-9 and the like… Repeat vague nothings enough until people accept it. Get a better slogan.
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Nike Chillemi says:
Cain certainly has a lot more going for him than Obama does. Obama couldn't order enough tomato sauce, although he did visit nearly all of the 57 states.
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I don't believe you Nike. You're going to have to support your claim re: the "lot" that Cain has going for him. This piece was not meant to compare Cain to Obama, or to anyone else for that matter. Too often we weaken and cheapen our positions trying to support the failures of our beloveds' characters by highlighting the failures of another. Let Cain's successes and failures stand on their own and judge him that way. Tell me what you get when you do that.
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Mainini Beatrice says:
I suppose next you will tell us Herman Cain is a lizard wearing a human costume. It makes a nonsense of your article when you suggest that everything Herman Cain = wrong, wrong, wrong.
Surely there is more to the man than that. You are not objective.
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No Mainnini I am not objective; this piece was "subject" to my opinion. This is why it was presented as such, namely, opinion. I will never conjecture that Cain is a lizard in a human costume, because it is not scientifically (or fantastically/magically) possible, but the mental image you invoke rings slightly true.
I also did not suggest that everything about Cain = "Wrong Wrong Wrong" I only suggested that the things about Cain that are wrong, are in fact wrong.
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lucy says:
This is hilarious. My favorite part are the comments from Cain supporters. They can't see what the rest of America and the world can. Cain is NOT qualified to be president of the United States! He has made so many errors and said so many stupid things I don't know where to begin! China may be a threat because they are developing nukes… Libya… enough said…. He never actually answers any questions, he just says he will consult with advisors. The choices aren't between Cain and Obama, there are 7 other much more qualified candidates that haven't said so many stupid things, and don't openly discriminate against Muslims and gays.
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>> He has made so many errors and said so many stupid things I don't know where to begin!
More like desperate misrepresentations and much a do about nothings.
>> China may be a threat because they are developing nukes…
Too much is made of single fast paced sentence. He could be talking of more capability or Nuclear Aircraft Carrier.
>> Libya… enough said….
Apart from the pause, he is absolutely right to bring attention to islamist elements in the opposition, which Obama does not seem to care less. "Cain's fundamental correctness is of course unimportant to the press" http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2011/11/1…
>> he just says he will consult with advisors.
Cain talks about foreign policy in almost every speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC3bGJ2sgos As for consulting advisors, every president has to do that. Take inputs from various sources before taking decisions etc.
>> The choices aren't between Cain and Obama, there are 7 other much more qualified candidates that haven't said so many stupid things,
It is up to each person to decide whose policies they like etc. Each of the GOP contenders have their strenghts and weaknesses.
>> and don't openly discriminate against Muslims and gays.
What did Cain discriminate? Dont tell me that everyone must approve of gay relationships. Interestingly, Muslims are the greatest critics of gays.
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Ted says:
Since when has Obama been Presidential?
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I think you've got the wrong comments page: this is the Herman Cain is not intelligent piece. The Obama piece may be down the hall.
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Bird Lives!!! says:
Please let Cain run. That will insure that Obama has another term as POTUS.
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Sherman says:
Here’s yet another classic example of Black on Black crime. Rather than celebrating two consecutive elections where Black men of stature vie for the most powerful job on the planet and on both sides of the isle, we point fingers and join the chorus of negativity against our own people. WWMD (What would Martin Do)
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So help me understand you here, Sherman. If the day comes when Mike Tyson is running for POTUS on a platform of "eating children" to control welfare and medicaid costs I am supposed to ignore his rape conviction and stomach his blatant disregard for reason (if it so turns out that this characterizes his campaign) because he and I are both black. I have a hard time seeing why that should be. Why don't Caucasian Americans implore their ideological counterparts to identify with that which they disagree with on the basis of race? Until the collective consciousness of the African American people becomes defined by its collective individuality African Americans will forever be marginalized.
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leetrav says:
(1)This article is hilarious. If you are looking for those who are not fit for public office…just take a look at Washington DC. BOTH parties are full to the brim with the clueless. The results are all around us. The present potus is the biggest joke of all.
Thanksgiving Holiday cheer and food for thought….Herman Cain, Paul, Bachmann, Gingrich and FairTax Johnson would bring personal freedom and economic success to our nation. We must steel ourselves for this ideological battle. We must unite. This can be our time. -
(2)The time of the ‘club member invertebrate’ (‘CMI’) pretty-boy party favorites is going out the window. The time of those same ‘players’ being able to ‘buy’ lifetime political careers is also on the way out. The time of the ‘good ole boy’ incumbent power moguls who think ‘we’ work for ‘them’ is OVER and that is way overdue. We have all seen, clearly, and more than ever, that the media are Left-leaning and/or Right-leaning. AND all their claims of un-biased, fair, balanced and un-spun input, throughput and output is, in fact, totally the OPPOSITE of those claims. It appears that they, like the Left/Right party power brokers, would love to be King-makers.
Well… ‘We the People’ are, apparently, rocking their world in a very unsettling and unpredictable fashion. What a crying shame.
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(3)That is where Cain, Paul, Bachmann, Gingrich and Johnson are coming into play. Surprise! Surprise! They are gaining steady and exponential political ‘traction’. All the concerted efforts to ‘dismiss and minimize’, these inspiring, honest, and steadfast patriots by the ‘CMIs’ and ‘media mouthpiece king-makers’ isn’t slowing down their growing popularity or inspiring messages. The obvious efforts to cast dispersions on them, consider them only ‘entertainment’ and relegate them to a ‘lower tier candidate status’ are FAILING! As it should be.
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(4)‘We the People’ are learning that we don’t have to SETTLE for their ‘CMI’ bs…or the Perry and Romney Show they love so. Just say thanks but no thanks. Their failures and the ‘failures’ of the old political system surround us all. The ‘CMIs’ from BOTH parties have ‘served’ us right into the poorhouse. 60+ years of very poor leadership and Congressional job performance have gotten us here. Banner headlines say it’s “Worst economy since the Great Depression”. Did we do that? Who did that? They did it. No THEY did it. The old ‘flim-flam’ blame game…smoke and mirror? Great job! Public service ‘performance art, at its best! But wait…We’re also broke. Busted. Really?….. Say it ain’t so. I guess the old tax, spend, spend, spend, tax, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend….still ain’t working. Never really has. Bad plans with even worse execution. The Emperor has no clothes. Shame, shame, shame.
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(5)The ‘CMIs’ from BOTH parties have proven over and over and over again that they are not up to the task of running our nation responsibly. Poor decisions and inept leadership has left us all with 15+ trillion in debt. AND there’s no sign of sanity, from those same delusional ‘CMIs’, in sight. They think it’s cool to raise the debt ceiling again and again and again. After all…it will keep their beloved ‘system’ up running. THEN try to scare us with spooky ‘OR ELSE’ if we don’t scenarios…seasoned with all manner of ‘divide and conquer’ schemes..…pure genius. Leadership at its best. Realize and understand…that IS their very best. We are witness to it. That’s all they’ve got. Look around. It’s global too. Very ‘tenuous’ and dangerous for all.
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(6)No wonder we’re in this mess…… Those who do pray… should best get to it…We need all the ‘divine’ help we can get. Yesterday.
I guess what I’m saying here is we don’t have to fall for the same old same old. We must bring in/demand REAL leadership… ‘new blood’ and FORCE common sense and responsibility on the ‘CMIs’. Our voice must be united and very clear. Our message must be unequivocal.
I have a sense of ‘certainty’…about Herman Cain. He is ‘my choice’… warts and all. I do have a bone to pick with him about 999/FairTax. I, WAY, prefer the FairTax. It, alone and for sure, cuts to the chase..gets rid of IRS for good. Perfect….Again, ‘my’ choice.
I still truly believe Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich and Gary Johnson are just the people we need for the job of running this Republic. Any and all would be a God-send for our great nation. We need these fine men and women to stick together and BE the winning ‘team’. -
Lucky 7…As a team they will be an unstoppable force for FREEDOM. Whoever is at the top of the list will need the others to fill important roles and cabinet positions so the positive changes, we need so bad, can be enacted. Times a wastin’!
Personal freedoms and an economic BOOM are needed now. These men and women (and the 999/FairTax) can help us, help them, make it happen. We must be prepared to take advantage of this time…this opportunity. Onward and upward America!
I think I pretty well covered it. Jmho LOL
Cain is right about the sense of humor thing too. I concur.
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Damion White is a 'short-sighted' clown. Can you say 'political fratricide'. 'Fool' is much easier. lol
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1) With your flowery prose you still do not elevate the Cain campaign's IQ from the basement. You also still fail to magically whisk away all of the documented idiocy coming from the campaign. Anyone with a brain could review footage of Herman Cain in the absence of commentary and come to many of the same conclusions that I have – so long as they knew what a presidential nomination and election entailed.
2) If you call any of these people except Ron Paul honest, "patriots" (too bad he is near bat s*** crazy) you need a history lesson, stat! Gingrich is as bad as any Washington insider, CMI, good 'ol boy or whatever irrelevant baseless euphemism you'd like to concoct to describe what I effectively disdain as "career ploticianism." Bachmann has reduced herself to nothing – can't blame the media for that – with unpreparedness and total disregard for sanity. Why don't you throw 'ol Santorum in there while we're at it – he seems like a terrific man to be a world leader.
3) Before you accuse those of blindly following the leaders of yesteryear and the here and now, don't blindly pledge your love for candidates that may never be. It is one in the same and indicative of the rampant hypocrisy that sullies near every debate taking place. We're such children in this country, or CMI's as you call it – don't reserve that for just politicians – it's not a foul when"I" do it, only when someone else does and when they do it it's reproachable so I'm "taking my ball and going home". Grow up.
4) The piece I wrote was not leftist or rightist. It in no way alluded to any other campaign, incumbent official or otherwise. It singularly had to do with the dumbness that has characterized Herman Cain's time in the spotlight as a GOP primary candidate for the Presidential nomination. For someone who writes so well I find it hard to believe that you read so poorly. How's that for short sighted.
5) You allude to solidarity, unity and a clear voice in the same breath as "9-9-9" – a concept that the campaign and man responsible for it has yet to consistently and effectively articulate. That is borderline remedial.
6) If this economic freedom and success in entrepreneurship were possible w/ republican ideals it would be happening now. The republican congress hasn't so much as proposed legislation to address the issues causing such suffering in this country. There is no such thing as a "job creator" – I know a lot of wealthy people. Never have I known them to be concerned with anything more than what it will take to remain more in the black than not. I've been a business owner. We hired as few people as possible and taxation was a non issue. That's just how it is going to be.
7) Lucky 7 you're a fool if you think the same people saying that government is to blame for the economic woes – without remembering which government really caused it – has any means to get us out of it. And you're a fool if you think CMI's and Good 'ol boys and girls (*Palin wink) don't disguise themselves as inspiring patriots while still donning the old party system brand name. Reality check much? And you're a fool if you think that it won't take an effort from the American people (i.e. sell the property you can't afford) to actually change the path we are on. The GOP field won't impress me until one of them runs on the platform of abolishing congress and reducing the role of the executive branch. If legislation will pass take it to a popular vote.
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It is entirely too weak and a severely unaware perspective to 1) say government is to blame 2) then run for government 3) then tell people in need that they can't blame the government for their problems. The GOP is an ideological contradiction.
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